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11-12-2009, 07:25 AM
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Re: Questions About The "Small Cell Studies"
fatbeeman writes:
I been on small cell yrs now. if it wasn't working I would have less and less bees. or do think I wasted my money on a mill to keep out all chem's. say what you like or believe what you like come look around my bee yard tell me its not working===lol Don tecumseh: my bees are just your regular sized run of the mill bees and I seem to have more and more as each season passes. no small cell, no insecticide inside the hive... I must be doin' something improperly. I guess for some that ain't workin' either. science methodology would suggest that for most folks seperating out the various convoluting factors* which makes something work or not work is a pretty difficult task. inability to systematically elimnate the various factors invariable leads to mistaken and often time delusional thinking (when you see stuff that ain't there... you qualify). my losses pretty much mirrows ole sol and like ole sol I would have a problem deciding which losses are from varroa, which are from starvation and which are from other causes. I would say that at this time I think I have a larger losses from starvation and nosema than anything else. *I suspect first off that most of the small cell true believers CANNOT recognize that perhaps the bees out there today could just be a bit different from the bees they had 10 years ago and therefore their comparison may mean little.
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#43
11-12-2009, 05:45 PM
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Re: Questions About The "Small Cell Studies"
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#44
11-16-2009, 05:43 AM
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Re: Questions About The "Small Cell Studies"
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I make many hundreds of nucs a year, and they never have to be treated. The bees are always in the build-up mode, and haven't turned into brood/varroa factories.
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#45
11-17-2009, 06:19 PM
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Re: Questions About The "Small Cell Studies"
A study does not the truth make. Bee Culture effectively ignored the Varroa problem all through the 90's and beyond, whilst pushing Apistan (always had the back cover) and (useless) stock in deference to their advertisers. They only gave up the ship when they had to. In their defense they did a neat article on the Lusby's (in 95?) which turned me on to small cell, but I canceled my subscription and kept my own counsel for a few years to let the dust settle. I switched over to ABJ a while back. This last EAS meeting sponsored by BC focused on "Natural Beekeeping." It was a great get-together, and this time around they were pushing Russian Stock really hard. One of the biggest proponents, Kirk Webster, wrote in the ABJ a few months ago how it didn't make any difference if you were on small cell or not. He is on his own custom cell size (5.1??). There are other factors at work here: People have to make a living, whether its by selling honey or selling bees. The marketplace influences public opinion more than any study or observation. There are more new wanna-beeks out there than ever before with the "green" revolution hyped on every channel -- and there are those out there who are happy to provide these novices with the product they have at hand. Many beeks contact me for advice or have me come over to their yards -- I have seen them fork over quite a bit of money for second-rate equipment and worse condition bees. People are going to back up what they are selling. No LC guy is going to push SC bees. It is not in his best interest. No Italian sole-producer is going to trump the benefits of Russians. You have to do what works for you. Typing on these forums or hashing it out over bar stools is not going to keep your bees alive, or food in your mouths. As Richard Taylor used to say: "Time will Tell."
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