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Goldenrod blooms up north before it blooms in the south?

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Ok, I know this season has been a not so normal one but I'm wondering about something...

I've always thought that plants start blooming first in the southern states and then the bloom moves northward. I've been hearing folks in the northern states and even up into Canada talking about goldenrod already blooming. Here in south central Alabama I haven't seen any blooming yet. We've been getting more rain than normal this summer in our local area, really nice for a change. I'm wondering if this is holding the goldenrod back. So, is the goldenrod blooming up north before it blooms in the south "normal"?

Thanks,
Ed
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
LOL, no Ed, that's not how it works. The fall blooming plants bloom earlier in the north due to their shorter summers. ...<snip>
Thanks casinoken! Duh, I feel like a real dunce, now. :eek: But I get over things pretty quick. ;) That makes perfectly good sense, but I've never thought about it. Thanks for my continuing education! :)

I just looked at some goldenrod photos I took last year, they were in full bloom with the dates ranging from 9/10/11 to 10/04/11. On 10/12/11 I took some pictures of some asters and tarweed that looked pretty good and then on 10/27/11 I made some pictures of some wild aster but they were beginning to look a little tired. So if I go by these dates and consider the seasons are about 2 weeks ahead of schedule I should have goldenrod in full bloom by the last week in August? I have looked at some grod and there is some swelling of the buds. It will be interesting to see when it starts blooming this year...hopefully it won't be too early.

Ed
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
<snip> Not only does goldenrod flow period vary from north to south, it varies east to west. My flow will be winding down, and over Buffalo way it will be just starting.
I checked a map out and there is 2-degrees latitude difference between Buffalo and St. Albans....could that difference along with Buffalo being situated on the shore of Lake Erie cause the difference in bloom times rather than the difference of latitude? Just thinking... :)

Ed
 
Discussion starter · #21 ·
On the subject of Goldenrod, aren't there many different varieties of Goldenrod and will this not explain some of the blooming difference? Most on this forum talk about how great the fall goldenrod bloom is and how much nectar the bees collect but I get nothing but pollen here - year after year. I asked a local beekeeper and they said it was our variety - whatever that is.:kn:
I've yet to experience the local goldenrod blooming while having bees. My mentor has that there is definitely a honey flow during the bloom cycle. With the rains that we have been getting I'm expecting a good flow...there are lots of plants here and there and they're all very green and yellowing.lightening in the upper branches. Interestingly, most of what I saw today was located in a river bottom where it probably the moistest. I did see a little bit on more upland ground, but mostly in the bottom. I just had some heavy orientation flights taking place the other evening...all three hives at once. I think I'll have a good bee population when it kicks in. We'll see. :)

Ed